There is this thing going on, this thing called NALT. It’s a
bunch of Christians pointing at Christians and calling them bigots for calling
homosexuality sin. Lead by fellas like Dan Savage and John Shore this thing
aims at proclaiming to LGBT’s that Not All Christians are Like That (NALT).
They stare down at their fellow “brothers and sisters”
saying that they are wrong, bigots, right-wing conservatives, and
fundamentalists for thinking and believing the Bible to condemn homosexuality. (In
fact Shore even goes so far as to call them unbelievers.)
And to a point I agree. Yea, we’re not all like that. Yea,
not all Christians want to, “Hate LGBT” people. But quite frankly I find this
little thing extremely offensive and divisive.
NALT does nothing more than give incentive to pit brother
against brother and sister against sister. (Which, I suppose, I should be glad
since, “I have come to, ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her
mother…” Matt 10:34-39)
By essentially claiming that all Christians who are not
supporting LGBT ideals hate LGBT people is a universal claim that is majoritively
untrue.
I do not support LGBT. The Bible is clear this is sin. But
does this mean I hate them?
No, it means I want to love them and see them saved from
their sin. Yet still more I do not see my sin as anymore terrible, damnable, or
deplorable than their sin. But to say, “Turn from your sins with me and believe
in Jesus,” is in fact loving.
Are all LGBT unsaved nonbelievers? No. Is it possible to be
a Christian who struggles with homosexuality? Yes. However one’s identity would
not be in their homosexuality but rather in Jesus. “Gay Christians” by nature
identify themselves first by their sexual standing and not by their supposed
Savior.
But again, I identify myself by my sins or any other thing
than Jesus more often than not. Does this make me not a Christian? No, it makes
me a saved sinner who struggles – along with all the other saved sinners – to
see Jesus as completely satisfying in all areas of life including my
heterosexuality.
So what am I saying? I’m saying that NALT is a divisive,
manipulative and filled with false claims. I’m saying there is another option
to their two-optioned approach. You can be a Christian and believe
homosexuality is a sin and not hate the LGBT people – it’s called a “disagreement”
and contrary to NALT teaching, these “disagreements” happen quite a bit.
Today was the first day of orientation for seminary - lots
of beginnings and meeting new people and neat professors/VP fellas. In so many
ways this has been the point I’d looked forward to so many years ago when I
graduated high school.
I remember dreaming about becoming a pastor while cleaning
the offices of the church my family went to, almost longing for the day to come
when I could start seminary. Thinking I could make a case for them to let me in
early without a bachelor’s degree (young and dumb). It was an exciting day,
having those thoughts run through my brain from years ago.
But it was a sobering day.
As my wife and I got home, we went to check our mailbox. One
of the cooks from my two-month table-waiting job who lives in our complex was
there. I asked how things were going there… He stuttered and stumbled and
choked on his words to say the chief killed himself on Monday.
I know that guy. I knew that guy. He smiled and helped me a
ton… My fumbling, ignorant, naivety he forgave and would say, “Don’t worry
about it, it happens,” with a compassionate smile. I can’t tell you how many
times in those two months I felt forgiveness and kindness from that in the
kitchen or how often I thought I could do my job confidently because there was
a guy willing to be forgiving of my waitering faults.
All day long I heard about the weighty beauty of the studies
to come. All night long I’ll think of the reality of death and absolute
necessity the kindness of the gospel is for broken people. “A bruised reed he
will not break and smoldering flax he will not quench.” “Come to me all who are
heavy laden, for my burden is light and my yoke is easy.” “All things work
together for the good of those who are called according to his purposes…”
This is why we do ministry. To minister - shepherd and serve
- those who are destitute and afflicted, storm tossed and heavy laden,
shattered and broken, depressed and despairing, to love those only Christ in us
could love, to have compassion on the wounded and destitute.
This is what we proclaim: certain hope in the salvation of
Jesus and the coming redemption of our frailties, the perfect man in the place
of our imperfections, the grace of God and the mercy of our Lord.
1) For kids a plane ride is like a forced time-out... For hours.
2) Rains and floods!
3) We're gonna do a wedding reception every other week.
4) U2. The Joshua Tree. Vinyl. Awesome.
5) Flying busses in the sky.
6) eat. Eat. EAT!
7) Tiger the lion
8) Seeing friends and family!
9) Did I mention we ate a lot?
10) Bangs! For the wife, I didn't get bangs. Bangs would be weird on a guy. Real weird.
11) We sat down in row 16 on the plane, which would've been fine, but we were in row 19... So we changed to row 18, which also would've been fine, but we were in row 19. Yes, we've flown all over the world multiple times but can't get our row right. 12) "... When I look at that God, the God of Abraham, I feel I'm near a real god, not the sort of dignified, businesslike, Rotary Club God we chatter about here on Sunday mornings. Abraham's God could blow a man to bits, give and then take a child, ask for everything from a person, and then want more. I want to know that God." B. Manning. 13) The Ragamuffin Gospel. Read it.
What’s my point in writing all these posts about money?
My point is this: We don’t need as much of it as we think we
do and we need to stop looking at what the perceivably rich people have and
gorging ourselves over their apparent wealth and our apparent poverty. There’s
a word for all this you know, “Coveting.”
Let’s just rebrand this whole “Inequality of Wealth” deal in
America to either a) “We’re Babies and Want the Other Kid’s Legos” or b)
“Selfish Coveters Who Are OK with Demanding to Have Your Stuff.” Take your
pick. Folks the grass is always greener somewhere else (sound familiar? Like
your mom said it when you were an incapable child?).
Take what you are given, what you earn (by the extravagant
grace, mercy and love of God who let you live, allowed you a job, and set you
in America) and use it wisely and shrewdly.
Remember that it is God who gives and takes away and that
those enormously wealthy people will have a hard time coming to the fountain of
grace because their money will hold them back. Remember that you too are one of
the 1% of the world by living in America and that to those to whom much is
given much will be expected. Remember to thank the Lord for his great provision
in your life and give to him your tithes and offerings. Remember God is King
and you; you are not. Remember that it’s free grace that saves our damnably
wretched souls and it is free mercy that rains down in our heart to make us
even notice God. Remember our biggest problem is our sinful rebellion against
God NOT the lack of some odd little trinket that will lose its entire luster in
a week.
There are some things we need, some things that are nice to
have, and everything else are just wants. Food and water those are necessary, we
need them to live. Shelter – a home – that’s nice to have, but not a necessity
necessarily. Then there’s all the stuff to go in the house, all of that is
socially dictated by the culture you’re in. Beds in India are floors sometimes.
Kitchens in Egypt are sparse. Showers in Uganda are rivers.
Food – God will give us our daily bread. Water – there are
people screaming out in hell for a drop on their ravaged tongues and it not
only drizzles on us here in America, but it floods from the skies at times. Are
you getting it? What you need has been provided in abundance here in America.
The “Inequality of Wealth” we’re talking about is the ability or inability to
get horribly made pieces of wood and ceramic at a store to stick on a wall and
smile at once! We’re whining at the fact that someone’s grass is greener than
ours! We’re discontented children screaming that their ice cream is bigger than
ours.
“Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us.”
A point here: Jesus didn’t instruct us to pray for
tomorrow’s food and sins, he told us to pray for today’s. The troubles of today
are enough in themselves, let tomorrow worry about its problems. If God gives
us food for the week he has taken care of today’s bread issues and given more
than we need. Anything you have beyond today is icing on the cake, cause only
the Lord knows whether or not you’re even going to live to use that icing.
(Also, a thought, God dictates what we need and don't need. He gives life and he takes life away. If what you need is to experience the fullness of God without shadow or veil - he gracously gives you death. So to say water and food are necessary, God defines what is neceassry and what is lifegiving.)
This “Standard of Living” stuff set out by our fancy
magazines and malls the size of cities and our selfish hearts are telling us to
buy the brand new X because that’s all we need to be happy. But then there’s Y
and Z to go along with X to make X look more fancy. But 1, 2, and 3 sit so
nicely beside X so they are necessary too, but don’t forget to buy the
insurance for X, Y, Z and 1, 2, and 3 else they brake and can’t be replaced and
hey, what do you know! Your paycheck’s gone.
Then we whip out that nifty slice of plastic and swipe it
away. Debt. And that just keeps crawling up there at the speed of a supersonic rocket.
Then we look at the people who live in fancy houses and think, “If only I could
live there, I bet they’re happy in that house.” Just to realize they have the
same problem we all have, namely selfish hearts and a society that tells us to
make ourselves happy with more stuff.
My point is that the rich aren’t the problem, sure they may
contribute to the problem, but they aren’t the problem itself. The problem with
the inequality of wealth in America is our selfish little hearts buying up stuff
we don’t even need and sometimes don’t even really want…
These kids have stuff made of trash and their doing just
fine. And Aldis is always selling cheap food and Goodwill has shirts for $3.49 and
you can buy boots that’ll last you a lifetime for 7 bucks, but someone else
wore them once.
My goodness people we can’t help but fall on our faces and
worship some new something with all our money. Then when we go to church and
when they ask for tithe we feel offended and affronted that some guy, let alone
some God, would ask for our hard earned cash – but no worries I’ll burn that
cash up on cigarettes (or some fancy meal) after service rather than see it
used by God for God’s purposes.
I want to take a couple posts to write about something I’ve
never written about in any length on this blog. Something we all talk about,
think about, and pray for more of. Something we all, “always need a little more
of,” “Can’t get enough of,” and, “wish we could just keep around a little
longer.” You know, that green stuff you keep tucked away in a chunk of leather
you sit on (fellas) or loose in your purse (ladies). Uh huh, money.
Recently I watched a little thing about the “Wealth inequality in America” where some guy ranted about how some people are rich and
have money while some people don’t. Noble, right? Kind of like Robin Hood,
“Let’s take their money and give it to those who don’t have any.” And I’d
agree, if for a few massive issues.
I’d agree that distributing wealth would be great, if people
worked hard and still didn’t have enough. I’d agree if every person on the poor
end of his scale was diligent and honest, but still couldn’t get by, then it
would be fair to have the wealthy give to help out the average Joe who is still
broke after a long hard day of difficult work. At least that’s the real story
of Robin Hood, right - stealing from the dishonest wealthy to help the honestly
diligent poor? (But let’s face it neither the poor nor the rich are all
honest.)
But then there’s this reality of folks that sit around and take in what the government gives them and are still part of the
“poor.” There’s a whole bunch of folks working their tails off for long hours
at 2 or 3 jobs to get their kids some food, then there is the ones sitting on
the couch with their brand new video game, iPhone5 and a bag of Cheetoes and
fat-kid fingers – all of which were paid for from the Social Security
withholdings of the diligent worker…
Yet, that’s not even the problem. The video would have you
believe the problem is that some people have too much money, that they're the
reason you're miserable and in debt and can’t scrape by every month – let me
break it to easy, thy're not your problem, you’re your problem.
You see there’s the “Standard of Living” stuff we’re trying
to live up to. There’s that ideal of what we want our lives to be like set out
by magazines and movie stars and whoevers telling you to buy the flat screen
plasma TV and the super sexy purse made of moon dust and sunbeams (or whatever)
and that’ll make your “Standard of Living” better because, “You deserve
better/more.”
Nah, you don’t deserve or even need more or better – to be
biblical you don’t even deserve life or air or water.
Money has been in my thoughts a ton recently because of
being married and needing to pay our bills and eat. A few nifty little tid-bits
are coming from these thoughts too, something’s I’d like to share here on the
blog. So for the next few posts help me think through – or out loud – the matters
of money.
There is a place only he can go; there is a place where only
love can lead; and there is a spot where we were bought.
It’s on the top of the Skull at the bottom of the pit, the
bottom of the cup, which last draught he drank. That detestable liquid that
sloshes around in the cup of pain, each drop mingled with eternity and
temporary, each sip as unquenchable fire and every taste death.
Death, death, death his laugh is haughty and his smile grim,
he sees the victim coming to his jaws, coming to his bite. His hunger is
unquenchable and his desire is to rip and slash and tear his victim limb from
limb and gorge himself on his blood. He plans it with pleasure and designs the
whole affair to be one of maximum suffering, of complete and utter agony, of
excruciating torment.
But lo, that victim he is consuming comes crawling back
through the throat of that dastardly devil, he breaks out the teeth his enemy
with sheer strength, he cracks and breaks the jaw of Death and puts his
mutilated head under his bruised foot crushing his head in finality.
The death toll Death typical rung sounded out but with a new
tenor, and a melody sprung forth. The sound of death had changed, for he had
not rung the toll, no, there was another who began the new song. The one who
death could not contain has sounded the first note in the chorus of his victory.
The orchestra has been sent to play the tune of salvation; the band sings on
and on and on the glory of salvation. The one who took down death and committed
Death to his grave and paid the price in full, the price we could not pay.
On high he reins flashing forth the glory of his fame.
Calling men and angels to proclaim the glories of his name.
Have you ever felt like God was tangibly around you? Like if
you were to reach out and grasp the air something invisible would be there to
grip your hand back? Or what about knowing for certain the purpose for your
being was to do a certain thing? Like if the calling or essence or epitome of
your life was to _________. Have you ever felt either of those feelings, rather
knowings?
I know these are big abstractions about the Christian life;
one’s calling and feeling the closeness of God. I know many folks don’t “feel”
God move or even think to terribly much about him, and that when they do think
of him it’s a him who looks more like them than Him.
But truth has always moved through the ages. There have
always been those who take up the banner of divine revelation and say with
their blood, sweat and very lives,“Let good and kindred
go, this mortal life also, the body they may kill, but God’s truth abides
still!” That death
meant life and life meant Christ; that hope shattered chains and set prisoners
free; that grace burned through hatred and love prevailed in darkness.
There are those in this time, in this generation who stand
strong rooted in the Scriptures that God’s truth still lives, breathes and will
fell the deviations of the devil. Yes, they will loose their friends and their
family. Yes, they will walk away from all to follow the call. Yes, they will
feel the tangible nature of the Almighty and the hold of the Comforter and the
embrace of nail scared hands. Yes, they will walk as sheep among wolves. Yes,
they will shut the mouths of lions and put foreign armies to flight and be sawn
in two and live destitute of whom the world is not worthy. And yes, yes, it
will be worth it all.
It will be worth it all to hear the saints and angels sing, “Holy,
holy, holy is the LORD God almighty who was and is and is to come.” It will be
worth it to hear the proclamation over all eternity, “Well done my good and
faithful servant.”
Yet, we must stand firm and be watchful and believe with all
of every breath of God-gifted life the gospel of Jesus, that he has become our
sin and we have become, by divine decree, his prefect righteousness. Indeed we
are the recipients of grace upon grace upon grace.
But beware for, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter
the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in
heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in
your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your
name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you
workers of lawlessness.’” (Matt 7:21-23)
Be sure of your belief. Be more than sure of the gospel. And be absolutely
sure that Jesus is your God-give hope, that Jesus is your Surety.
Just after I became a Christian as
a graduation gift from my brother-in-law I received a box full of books – just
a box full of books, no fancy graduation wrapping or anything – just a box of
books. As an 18-year-old kid this was, well to be honest, it was a little
underwhelming. The names on the spines of the books read, “Spurgeon,” and it
was a name I was hardly familiar with.
There were three sets of books some
brown ones, green ones, and some that looked like they’d been printed in the
sixties because of the cheesy cover art on the front. But there was something
that kept drawing my mind and eye to these books among all the other gifts.
Little did I know that my world and
view of the Christian tradition was about to be moved and transformed in such a
way so as to never be the same and never to want look back. John Piper talks of
Lewis as coming over the horizon of his life, and this is how I speak of
Spurgeon, he walked over the horizon of my life and brought me into many green
pastures of growth, guided me in long walks among quiet rivers and taught me
the meaning of silence, prayer, words, and true eloquence. This under-shepherd
of the true Shepherd herded my life along even though it was more than one
hundred years after his final breath.
A shift happened for me here, I
began to wonder about all these other names I’d heard about and the depth of
insight they too might offer to a kid wanting to be a pastor. Names like
Luther, Calvin, Edwards, Lewis, Stott, Packer, Augustine and many others became
my teachers in those early days. And all of them echoed the glorious truth of
the authority, inerrancy, and infallibility of Scripture – that it is, “Divine
Writ.”
Spurgeon taught me what it is to be
a pastor, more than any other man I’ve worked for or with he has taught me what
it is to be a man in the Word. Discipleing me to follow God and no other, to
let the times change and the Scripture remain unassailably the same; to preach
incessantly and unapologetically the gospel; to speak with heart-burning
conviction; to not let up, or back off, or give in until Christ himself
welcomes me with, “Well done my good and faithful servant.”
Therefore the title of the blog,
“Aspiring Spurgeon,” might be simple to decode now. By the mercy and grace of
God almighty I hope that words I write will someday impact the heart of one
person in such a way that Spurgeon has impacted me. It’s a tall order to be
sure, to desire to impact someone’s life for all eternity, but God has used men
throughout all of history to impact and grow other men – that’s why we’re
called ‘ambassadors’ – so I believe he can use the wretch that I am to impact
one other person.
I've never really explained why my blog is called "Aspiring Spurgeon," which, I guess, is a huge over sight in the realm of the blogger types. So I'd like to take a couple posts and explain the name. First, however, I want to give you a quote from one of his sermons, then later we can jump into why a blog has a certain name.
"... The more vile a man is, the more eagerly I invite him to believe in Jesus. A sense of sin is all we have to look for as ministers. We preach to sinners; & let us know that a man will take the title of sinner to himself, & we then say to him, 'Look to Christ and you shall be saved.' 'Look,' this is all he demands of you, & even this he gives you. If you look to yourself you are damned; you are a vile miscreant, filled with loathsomeness, corrupt and corrupting others. But look here - see that man hanging on the cross? Do you behold his agonized head dropping meekly down upon his breast? Do you see his hands pierced and rent, & his blest feet, supporting the weight of his own frame, rent well-nigh in two with the cruel nails? Sinner! Do you hear him shriek, 'Eloi, Eloi, lama sabbacthani?' Do you hear him cry, 'It is finished?' Do you mark his head hang down in death? See you that side pierced with the spear, & the body taken from the cross? O, come you here! Those hands were nailed for you; those feet gushed gore for you; that side was opened wide for you; and you want to know how you can find mercy, there it is, 'Look!' 'Look unto me!' Look no longer to Moses. Look no longer to Sinai. Come you here and look to Calvary, to Calvary's victim, and to Joseph's grave. And look yonder to the man who near the throne sits with his Father crowned with light and immortality. 'Look, sinner,' he says this morning to you, 'Look unto me and be saved.' It is in this way God teaches that there is none besides him; because he makes us look entirely to him, and utterly away from ourselves."
I bet you're beginning to see why this preacher from one hundred years ago has made an impact on me. It's exciting to get to tell you how God used this man in my life so long after his death.
It's been almost two months since I moved from Wichita to Raleigh and in that time I've noticed I do one thing (at least) quite terribly - prayer.
Sure it's one thing to write out your prayer or speak it out to God, that's easy, to fill time with words and void with thought, but it's another thing entirely to listen to God speak, to shut yourself up, to let the pen stop scratching the page and listen. It's a treat really, to listen to the God who made all, sustains all, and holds all things together, but it's also a discipline (admittedly one I'm not very good at). What's more is the way God provides and heals and helps: food, money and shelter have been given to us but the task of listening to this Giver is still terribly difficult.
So here's to shutting up. Here's to saying nothing at all and spending silent time with the Creator of the universe, the Sustainer of your soul. Here's to having Scripture be your prayer and your answer. Here's to the God who hears and answers and speaks with His children tenderly about his love for them in Jesus.
This is the post about hell in its entirety. I would highly encourage
you to read this straight through, it will take a couple minutes, and there are a
few extra paragraphs that were not included in the other posts. At the end
is also a personal note, one that kept me studying and kept me writing while being tired of reading and thinking and writing about hell - it was hellish to allow
my mind to be consumed by thoughts of this terrible reality.
I pray this post will be helpful to all who read it. That in considering
hell it will spur you on to love, both of God and of man. To not spurn the
gospel of grace offered freely to us who justly deserve eternal hell - to both
believe with all our heart, strength, and mind the reality of God's love for us
in the gospel. That indeed Jesus has made peace between God and us rebels by
the blood of his cross.
Therefore read with an eye on the cross for your own sake and an eye on
your friends and family and remember Jesus' words on his way to the cross and
know he bore this in your place for your sins, "My Father, if it be
possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as
you will.” Matt. 26:39
Last week I wrote a couple posts
about an interesting topic that I apparently jumped fully into, that is the
topic of annihilationism. This is the idea that hell will end for those
condemned there after a time – that rather than suffering for eternity those
damned will be annihilated, that they’ll cease to be.
It seems there are four parts to
the annihilationist’s argument (of the more than one hundred comments on my
facebook post you’d think there are at least four hundred arguments for it and
just as many against it), these are:
1) The biblical references for the
‘destruction’ of the wicked,
2) The inconsistency of an eternal
hell with the love of God,
3) The injustice or unfairness of
the disparity between sins committed in this life and the punishment of eternal
torment, and
4) That allowing evil to continue
in hell would mess with the perfection of the universe God will create after
the Judgment Day. (Order taken from Wayne Grudem)
Over the next series of posts I
hope to respond to this doctrine, not only to respond to it but also to make
clear both the biblical stance as well as my stance on this topic of the
eternality of hell.
However
before we begin to look more deeply at this topic I want to make one thing
absolutely crystal clear and this one thing should be at the front of our minds
whenever we are discussing or thinking about the topic of hell, namely that we
are thinking about the outcome for millions of real people.
Hell
is real, whether one believes in annihilationism or eternal hell, it’s still
real and will still be awful and real people will go there. Friends, family,
moms, dads, brothers, sisters, children will inhabit this terrible place where
God justly pours out his wrath on those who are not saved by the blood of
Jesus. This MUST be at the forefront of our minds as we think about this topic.
The wrath of God is real, and it will be – and is - unimaginable.
Let’s begin our talk of hell with the wrath of God. It is
appropriate to think about this at the beginning because it is precisely what
we are dealing with when we are talking about hell – for it is the wrath of God
that comprises hell and therefore it is primarily the wrath of God that we are
dealing with when we reflect on hell.
The wrath of God is one of the perfections of God, in other
words it’s one of his attributes, one of his characteristics. We should study
it because it gives us a fuller picture of who God is (if we didn’t it would be
like getting to know your friends without letting them talk about themselves).
“The wrath of God is a perfection of the Divine Character on
which we need to meditate frequently, “ for three reasons, “First, that our
hearts may be impressed by God’s detestation of sin… Second, to beget a true
fear in our souls for God (Heb 12:28-29)… Third, to draw our souls in frequent
praise to Jesus Christ for having delivered us from, ‘the wrath to come,’ (I
Thess 1:10)(A.W. Pink).”
It would seem that the wrath of God is a rather unfashionable
thing to talk about; it’s not often that folks preach sermons about how amazing
and terrible is the God we worship and use texts about the utter destruction
and torment of the wicked in hell as their preaching passage. However we must talk
about the terribleness of which hell is comprised. And quite frankly I think Jonathan
Edwards expounding on I Thess. 2:16 are much better words than mine here (don’t
be intimidated that it’s Edwards I modernized it),
“How dreadful the wrath of God is, when it is executed to
the uttermost. To make you in some measure sensible of that. I desire you to
consider whose wrath it is. The wrath of a king is a roaring lion; but this is
the wrath of Jehovah, the LORD God Omnipotent. Let us consider what we can
rationally think of it? How dreadful must the wrath of such a Being be when it
comes upon a person to the uttermost, without any pity, or moderation, or
merciful circumstances! What must be the uttermost of his wrath who made heaven
and earth by the word of his power; who spoke and it was done, who commanded
and it stood fast! What must his wrath be, who commanded the sun and it doesn’t
rise, and seals up the stars! What must his wrath be who shakes the earth out
of its place and causes the pillars of heaven to tremble! What must his wrath
be who rebukes the sea and makes it dry? Who removes mountains out of their
place and overturns them in his anger! What must his wrath be whose majesty is
so awful that no man could live in the sight of it! What must the wrath of such
a Being be when it comes to the uttermost, when he makes his majesty appear and
shine bright in the misery of wicked men! And what is a worm of the dust before
the fury and under the weight of this wrath, which the stoutest devils cannot
bear but utterly sink and are crushed under it. Consider how dreadful the wrath
of God is sometimes in this world only in a little view or taste of it.
Sometimes when God only enlightens consciences to have some sense of his wrath
it causes the stout-hearted to cry out; nature us ready to sink under it when
indeed it is but a little glimpse of divine wrath that is seen…. But if a
slight taste and comprehension of wrath be so dreadful and intolerable what
must it be when it comes upon a person to the uttermost! When a few drops or a
little sprinkling of his wrath is so dreadful and overbearing to the soul, how
must it be when God opens the flood-gates and lets the mighty deluge of his
wrath come pouring down upon men’s guilty heads and brings all his wrath to
sink them! ‘When his wrath is kindled but a little, blessed are all they that
put their trust in him. (Ps. 2:12)’”
(It’s a long quote I know) We must be aware that the wrath
of God is terrible and a part of his divine perfections and as such we must not
think to small of our God to imagine that his wrath will not be or is not
utterly horrifying. While it may not be the cool thing to talk about it is
indeed part and portion of the God we worship and therefore must be considered.
But while considering it we cannot think that his wrath is mixed with the same
limitations or imperfections that we have in our ‘wrath.’ Surely we are justly
angry at times be we are also imperfect and ignoble in our anger – but God is
not.
In studying God’s wrath we will see exactly what we are
saved from through the propitiatory death of Jesus who stood, “Between us
sinners and the thunderclouds of divine wrath… (J.I. Packer).”
Passages to look up on the wrath of God:
Ex. 22:18-24; 32:10-12
Deut. 29:23-28; 11:16-27
Ezra 8:22
Ps. 2:5-9
Nahum 1:2-3, 6-8, 14
Amos 5:18-20
Matt 16:24-26
Mark 9:47
Lk. 12:47-48; 21:22-24
Rom. 1:18; 2:5; 3:5-8, 24-25; 12:19; 13:4-5
Acts 17:30-31
Eph 2:3
I Thess. 1:10; 2:16; 5:9
II Thess 1:7-10
Heb. 10:28-31
I John 2:2
Rev. 6:16; 16:19
Now let’s get the brunt of what these posts are about. We’ve
seen that the wrath of God no matter where one stands on the spectrum of hell,
that God’s wrath is indeed terrible and should cause us to fear Him. We’ve also
seen that God’s wrath isn’t mixed with imperfections like our, that it is a
perfect wrath.
So how does this wrath play out in hell? It’s real, hell. We
need to know that above all else hell is a real place and real people go there
(remember, keep that at the forefront of your mind).
Edwards makes a good case in the last post that if a little
of God’s wrath is intolerable what must it be to experience God’s wrath to the
uttermost? But what is the term on God’s wrath, is there a limit, does it end?
No, God’s wrath against sin does not end. Biblically God’s
wrath against sin does not end (This should be enough). Logically God’s wrath
against sin does not end. Temporally God’s wrath against sin does not end. In
terms of glory God’s wrath against sin does not end. In terms of perfection
God’s wrath does not end.
I want to present this in two ways, first in terms of a
rebuttal to the four main arguments for annihilationism (a necessarily negative
light) and second in terms of why one must believe that hell is unending (a
necessarily positive light).
In the first post I listed the main arguments of
annihilationism as this:
1) The biblical references for the
‘destruction’ of the wicked,
2) The inconsistency of an eternal
hell with the love of God,
3) The injustice or unfairness of
the disparity between sins committed in this life and the punishment of eternal
torment, and
4) That allowing evil to continue
in hell would mess with the perfection of the universe God will create after
the Judgment Day. (Order taken from Wayne Grudem)
In this post I hope to offer a rebuttal to these arguments.
Mind you this debate has been going on for years and I do not expect to change
their minds in this one post, in fact I fully expect more arguments will come
to show. (Some good resource to read are: Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology
page 1146 about Hell, J.I. Packer Knowing God chapter on The Wrath of God,
James Boice The Foundations of the Christian Faith chapter on The Wrath of God,
Jonathan Edwards sermons Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, The Justice of
God in the Damnation of Sinners, Of Eternal Punishment and many others.) Many
of my arguments here are taken from Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology.
First the biblical references for the ‘destruction’ of the
wicked. References like Phil. 3:9; I Thess 5:3; II Thess 1:9; II Peter 3:7. “In
response it must be said that the passages of destruction do not necessarily
imply the cessation of existence.” (Hold on to your hats this part is a little
detailed and I’m no Greek scholar.)
In Phil. 3:9 and II Peter 3:7, “‘destruction’ is apoleia
which is the same as in Matt 26:8 to speak of ‘waste’ of the ointment. Now the
ointment did not cease to be, to exist; it was very evident on Jesus’ head. But
was ‘destroyed’ in the sense it no longer was able to be used on someone else
or sold.” This destruction is the type seen in these verses, not imply
annihilation but the simplicity of unable to be redeemed. Those who are in hell
are unredeemable; they did not believe the gospel of Jesus Christ and are bearing
the just eternal punishment of their sins.
In I Thess 5:3 and II Thess 1:9, “’destruction’ is olethros,
used also in I Cor 5:5 of delivering a man to Satan (putting him out of the
church) for destruction of the flesh – but his flesh did not certainly cease to
be when he was put out of the church…” So destruction is once again not seen as
ceasing to exist it is seen as being done away with in a permanent since.
Verses about the eternality of hell:
Matt 25:30-41, 46 see also Isa 66:4
Mark 9:43, 48
Luke 16:22-24, 28
Rev 14:9-11; 19:3; 20:10-15
I would highly recommend you look these verses up, especially the ones
in Revelation, which say things like “forever and ever.” All the verses are
linked for your viewing ease.
In the last post we looked at the first argument for the biblical
texts ‘supporting’ annihilationism. In this post we’ll look at the last three.
The second is that of the inconsistency that an eternal hell is to the
love of God. That For God to be truly loving then he would not damn any person
to an eternity in hell. However the same problem arises for the
annihilationists. In other words this is really a non-argument. It would be
unloving for God to damn anyone to hell forever, but it would be loving for God
to damn anyone to hell for a set time in such a way so as to annihilate them.
Do you see? On one hand it’s unloving to damn and on the other hand it’s loving
to damn is essentially the argument. (There is also another type of
annihilationism, called annihilationism proper or immediate annihilationism,
that is that upon death those unsaved completely cease to be and do not enter
hell at all. But this cannot properly be called punishment. Therefore it’s not
right because there would be no ultimate justice in the universe.)
Third is the inconsistency between the punishment and the grievance,
the sin committed. “The argument that eternal punishment is unfair wrongly
assumes that we know the extent of the evil done when sinners rebel against
God. (Grudem)”, “Sin against the Creator is heinous to a degree utterly beyond
our sin warped imaginations to conceive of….Who would have the temerity to
suggest to God what the punishment … should be. (Kingdon).”
Along this point it should be asked of the annihilationist if once a
person has entered hell and has served its ‘time’ is it then justified to be
annihilated? If the sin that was committed by this person is now dealt with in
their ‘time’ in hell, then why not let that person go to heaven? What is the
reason or point of annihilationism whatsoever if that person’s sins have been
dealt with fully in hell? (Grudem)
Fourth, that allowing evil to persist would be a corruption in God’s
perfect universe he creates after the Judgment Day. That hell exists in
eternity does not detract from the perfections of God’s universe, in fact it
enhances it. It forces us to realize that God has triumphed over sin perfectly
and, as Edwards said, to the uttermost revealing the glory of his justice and
the perfection of his wrath. That for all time his people will behold God’s
triumph over all evil.
On a side note before I end this particular post Grudem brought up an
interesting thing, one which I’ll post here as a warning – a shot across the
bow, if you will – of where, the dangers of fighting against the eternality of
hell could lead. “Because the doctrine of eternal conscious punishment is so
foreign to the thought patterns of our culture, and, on a deeper level, to our
instinctive and God-given sense of love and desire for redemption for ever
human being created in God’s image, this doctrine is emotionally one of the
most difficult doctrines for Christians to affirm today. It also tends to be
one of the first doctrines given up by those who are moving away from
commitment to the Bible as absolutely truthful in all that it affirms…”
We must believe that eternal punishment is true and just even though
it does hurt us to believe that there is a place that offers eternal
punishment. Even though the prospects of people going there is devastating.
This doctrine gives literal fire to our message of redemption.
Here I want to propose the arguments for the eternality of hell in a
positive light.
First it is biblical:
Matt 25:30-41, 46 see also Isa 66:4
Mark 9:43, 48
Luke 16:22-24, 28
Rev 14:9-11; 19:3; 20:10-15…
Second it’s reasonable:
If God is an eternal being and we have sinned against that eternal
being than it stands to reason that the just punishment for such a grievance is
an eternal punishment. We however are guilty of more than one sin, indeed we
are sinners are through and through. There is indeed justice for God in the eternal
damnation of sinners.
If God commands that we as his creation do not murder, that we do not
snuff out life in this reality, then how can God, who created the law, not be
subject to his own law and utterly destroy – annihilate, murder in completeness
of the word – people? It would seem that in so acting God must be unjust and
disobey his own decreed command and therefore not be perfect. In other words it
would mean that God is in fact not God and therefore not worthy of glory,
honor, praise, and eternal dominion.
If God’s wrath against sin terminates in the annihilation of a person
then what happened with Jesus? If Jesus bore the same wrath of God for sin for
Christians, as a non-Christian will bear to their annihilation then why was
Jesus not annihilated?
Third it’s traditional orthodoxy:
I’ll be the first to tell that just because something is traditional
that doesn’t mean it should be believed, you all know I’m a huge fan of the
reformation. But when it comes to orthodoxy these are areas, which must be
believed in order to have the gospel in its full potency. It is a good practice
to ask, “If this is doctrine is different or changed in any way does it change
the gospel? And if so how?” If the gospel is changed than the new doctrine or
changed doctrine should not be believed. Here, if hell is ending we loose much
of the potency of the powerful redemptive work of Jesus. Rather than saving us
from for all times from the wrath of God on sin, he only saves from the wrath
of God until the end of hell then after that… well that’s part of the question,
what does happen to those in heaven after hell is over? Is Jesus’ death still
effective? What happens to justification? What happens to redemption? What
happens to salvation after hell has ended? Are we still the redeemed and if so
what are we the redeemed from? Like the title of this post says, what the hell
am I saved from?
On this note is good to look at those who have believed this same
doctrine, has history vindicated their names against those who have been
proponents for other doctrines, names like St. Augustine, John Calvin, Martin
Luther, Charles Spurgeon, Peter and Paul. It is good to be in good company when
believing certain difficult doctrines. Here, if one were to believe that hell
has an end they would be in the company of Seventh Day Adventist or Jehovah’s
Witnesses, which are both commonly, referred to as cults.
In the last post I want to point out what believing in the eternality
of hell does for one’s Christian faith.
It seems odd to have a section that only highlights the benefits of
why one should believe in the eternality of hell. It’s crazy to think there are
pluses to this immense minus. But there are many.
First I would put this doctrine in my category of “Devastatingly Beautiful.” This is
where I put the doctrines that are so dangerous and devastating but also afford
and allow for such worship as cannot be brought by any song I’ve heard or sung.
The eternality of hell is devastating because real people go to a real
hell – forever. There are no second chances after death. In fact this life we
live has second chances every second. After death there is one place for those
who have spurned God’s call and shunned his righteousness and aimed to live
their own life without God. God mercifully gives them what they desire – an
eternity without his closeness. We cannot come to this dry-eyed or
bushy-tailed. This ought to take the wind out of our sails and crush us on the
rocks of devastation. People will die and they will suffer forever…
Think about that, people you know will die and they will suffer
endlessly. Think about their screams; try to imagine their pain. Now think
there’s away way out of that torment – that terrible suffering – a way has been
made to release you and them from your and their just damnation and his name is
Jesus! He bore that incomprehensible wrath in your place for your sins! Do you
love your friends? Of course, now tell them to be saved, redeemed by Jesus! At
the heart of the arguments on the limitations of hell is a dangerous plot to lose
the urgency of missions. Our dying world must be saved from the just torment of
eternity. And only God can save them from his own wrath through Jesus’ atoning
death.
Now think about the beauty of salvation! See the storm clouds of God’s
divinely just wrath poured out completely on Jesus – you see the only way that
Jesus could bear the eternal wrath of God is because he himself is a part of
the eternal Being. The only possible way for God’s entire eternal wrath to be
cleared from your name is if Jesus being fully God and full man stood and took
that wrath for you – it’s the doctrine of propitiation.
We cannot lull our friends or family into a false sense of security by
allow them to think hell is ending or that it is not going to be terrible. To
allow them to think such things would be like leading them there yourself.
Spurgeon said in Lectures to My Students something that has stuck with me for
years essentially it is this: Do not be a blind pastor leading you people
blindly to hell; an unredeemed pastor is like a blind man making claims about
beautiful paintings or a deaf man telling the world of Mozart, he cannot tell
the world of what he does not know. Therefore make sure you know and believe
the gospel lest you lead your congregation to hell and be greeted there by
their screams of torment, “You lead us here!” This will be the screams of those
we love if we do not tell them urgency and dangerousness of hell and the beauty
of the salvation of Jesus.
Ask yourselves what makes missions seem more urgent hell that is
ending or hell that is eternal? Ask yourself what makes God’s hatred against
sin more perfect hell that is ending or hell that is eternal? Ask yourself what
makes God’s salvation more inescapably beautiful hell that is ending or hell
that is eternal? Ask yourself what makes God’s glory so vast as to truly show
us that what we know of God is limited and finite hell that is ending or hell
that is eternal? Finally ask yourself what shows God’s way to be far higher
than our ways, hell that is ending or hell that is eternal?
As an end to this post, this post of hell, I want to add a personal note
(I really hope you watched the video). The glory of God is displayed clearly in
the death of Jesus - God in the flesh - that he stood in our place and bore an
eternity of punishment in his eternal Being. We are free because he has freed
us. Hell, this eternal suffering and torment that we should get for the rest of
forever has passed from us on to Jesus. Therefore the personal note that I want
to add here is simply this: BELIEVE!
Believe that God has and does love you personally! Believe that God does
love you unconditionally! Believe that God loves you irresistibly! Believe that
God loves us perseveringly! Believe that it is Jesus who has done all the work
you could never do and saved you from all that you deserve to bear – He literally
bore it in himself for you because of the deep, deep love of God!
If you do believe the gospel then believe it more and still and deeper!
After reading about hell it ought to stir your mind and pluck your heartstrings
to know that this damnable eternity is some people’s forever… Be broken! Be devastated,
but also turn to the cross of Jesus Christ and realize the full gorgeous beauty
of the gospel! That you are free from this proper damnation because of Jesus
and only Jesus!
“But now the
righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the Law, although the Law
and the Prophets bear witness to it – the righteousness of God through faith in
Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have
sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a
gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a
propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s
righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former
sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be
just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.” Romans 3:21-26
1. Watched 2 big dead trees fall in a thunderstorm yesterday... I jumped and clapped. 2. Brought home water guns, the wife and I ran around our apartment complex shooting each other and scaring ducks. 3. Had a job interview. Of all the jobs I've ever had that was the first interview I've ever had. Kinda tripy. 4. All the post about hell are up, give me a read or wait for all of them to be posted in one (coming soon). 5. Went to Virginia for the first time and saw a sign that said "Washington DC" that was a first too. 6. Trying to raise money for a hospital in India, if you know anyone who can help comment away! 7. Fully & finally accepted to seminary! 8. There are tons of trees here. 9. We have this sweet Moroccan set up for our dinning area.
10. Had friends over the other night! Yay friends!
